[Hpr] Happy new year - should we continue with HPR ?

[Keith Murray]

As the discussion has continued there's a question in my mind about
listenership numbers as well.

Caveats:
1. Download numbers are certainly an imperfect measure for a podcast, but
without other more intrusive analytics I suspect that's all we're likely to
have.
2. Download / subscriber numbers aren't "the point" of the exercise.

While we're not doing this to be "popular", certainly, but it would be nice
to have an idea of just what the trends are with respect to listenership.
After over 4000 episodes delivered and a consistent schedule that's been in
place for a very long time, I expect things would be either consistent or
growing.

Are they? With 470 contributors to HPR, how many orders of magnitude larger
than that number does the average episode reach?






On Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 13:26 Ken Fallon via Hpr <
hpr at lists.hackerpublicradio.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The reason lostnbronx did the show "hpr0560 :: Old soldiers", was because
> HPR was releasing shows on an ad hoc unpredictable schedule. People were
> unsubscribing, other podcasts were asking if HPR had finished or not. In
> fact that was the first time I asked is HPR RIP
> <https://lists.hackerpublicradio.com/pipermail/hpr/2010-September/000109.html>
> ?
>
> My feeling has always been that a consistent release schedule builds trust
> in podcasts. Since then lots of research has been done that supports it.
> Eg: youtube <https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/13616979> "A
> consistent, sustainable release schedule is critical when building and
> fulfilling audience expectations...." , spotify
> <https://podcasters.spotify.com/resources/learn/create/podcast-schedule>
> "When podcasters don't stick to a steady schedule, it can be the first sign
> of podfading, when a show becomes less and less regular until it eventually
> disappears." Should it matter ? No. Does it matter ? Yes.
>
> In the case of HPR, we release "New episodes every weekday Monday through
> Friday". You might have no clue who the host will be, what it's going to be
> about, if it's going to have potty language in it or not, but you *do* know
> that "you can tune in tomorrow for another exciting episode". We haven't
> missed a day since 2010-09-21 and sometimes that is the only thing that
> keeps the Janitors going.
>
> We have 427 hosts and 240 slots, so one show a year is more than enough to
> handle the schedule. Going to fewer release days would not address the
> problem of getting shows in the first place, it just prolongs the
> inevitable. So no my personal feeling is that we should not release less
> shows when the queue is low, nor should we release more shows when the
> queue is full, which as has also been suggested. That said if the consensus
> is that that should be changed then this is the place to discuss it.
>
> For now the compact with the Janitors is simple, "You keep sending in
> shows and we'll keep posting them. When there are no more shows we'll close
> down HPR with dignity." Hopefully that won't be for ages yet but it's up to
> you all to decide. So if you want your say Vote Early
> <https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/calendar.php> and Vote Often
> <https://hub.hackerpublicradio.org/request.php?id=9999>. (There is no
> time limit on the voting either ;-) )
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)https://kenfallon.comhttps://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon
>
> On 2024-01-20 20:28, jezra via Hpr wrote:
>
>
> The only suggestion that I can make in order to keep the show going going,
> would be to decrease the show release cadence. Thrice fortnightly perhaps?
>
>
> On 1/19/24 06:25, Ken Fallon via Hpr wrote:
>
>
> Since I took up the mop inspired by "hpr0560 :: Old soldiers, A discussion
> of "podfading" - the fading away of once-active podcasts
> <https://hackerpublicradio.org/eps/hpr0560/index.html>
> <https://hackerpublicradio.org/eps/hpr0560/index.html>", the
> understanding was to continue the project until there is no more interest
> in it.
>
>
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